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QOP67
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Post subject: Why couldn't mankind have been given a 3rd choice Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:24 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:00 pm Posts: 9 Location: The Unknown
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A question I'd like to ask christians
Why weren't we given a 3rd choice, instead of just two, heaven or hell, the 3rd being non-existence
In fact non-existence would by far, have been my first choice, had I been granted that opportunity  , only now it's not an option since I'm already here  , like so many others before and after, my mother sat in church like a good little girl, but she either didn't believe, or listen to what the preachers were saying
Could God not have been loving enough, to have given us this 3rd choice
Maybe that's why I like time travel so much, if I could, the foremost thing on my mind, would be to erase myself from existence if possible, no regrets, no remorse, no pain, no nothing  :
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Pierac
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Post subject: Re: Why couldn't mankind have been given a 3rd choice Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:59 am |
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QOP67 wrote: A question I'd like to ask christians Why weren't we given a 3rd choice, instead of just two, heaven or hell, the 3rd being non-existence In fact non-existence would by far, have been my first choice, had I been granted that opportunity  , only now it's not an option since I'm already here  , like so many others before and after, my mother sat in church like a good little girl, but she either didn't believe, or listen to what the preachers were saying Could God not have been loving enough, to have given us this 3rd choice Maybe that's why I like time travel so much, if I could, the foremost thing on my mind, would be to erase myself from existence if possible, no regrets, no remorse, no pain, no nothing  :
Because it's not part of God's Plan...
CLV Ecc 1:13 I applied my heart to inquiring and exploring by wisdom concerning all that is done under the heavens:it is an experience of evil Elohim ( God) has given to the sons of humanity to humble them by it.
CLV Ecc 3:11 He has made everything fitting in its season; However, He has put obscurity in their heart So that the man may not find out His work, That which the One, Elohim, ( God) does from the beginning to the terminus ( end)."
God has a plan for His creation, a plan of Love for all! There really is only one choice, but we don't get to chose it!
Rom 11:32 For God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may show mercy to all.
1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive.
1Ti 4:10 For it is for this we labor and strive, because we have fixed our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers.
Heb 7:25 Therefore He is able also to save forever those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
1Jn 2:2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.
1Jn 4:14 We have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son to be the Savior of the world.
The world or only the 5% of humanity that has had access to the scriptures?
You already are a time traveler my friend!
Paul
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firstborn888
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Post subject: Re: Why couldn't mankind have been given a 3rd choice Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:49 am |
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QOP67 wrote: Maybe that's why I like time travel so much, if I could, the foremost thing on my mind, would be to erase myself from existence if possible, no regrets, no remorse, no pain, no nothing
We've probably all felt like that at one time or another. In time you will see the contrast is the reason for the experience of good and evil and also see the meaning of the tree of life. And be thrilled that you exist.
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Peacetroll
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:53 pm |
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That nonexistance is the option given in this world. That is the second death. People can con themselves that the same end awaits all, but it is not so. There is no burning hell, or eternal punishment, only eternal nonexistance.
Why would anyone think God would create anything to suffer eternal physical pain? Even a flat worm?
That the perfect mind of God would even consider such a thing is blasphemy.
Jeremiah 32:35
And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.
The day you die, if not in Christ, you have no life, Spirit of Christ, and your thoughts perish. You do not exist.
Psalm 14:4His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.
5Happy is he that hath the God of Jacob for his help, whose hope is in the LORD his God:
John 11:25
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
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Peacetroll
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:30 pm |
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I know people who believe in UR think you will have all your evil impulses and your sins punished out of you if you are not in Christ.
Do you really believe that God is going to run a video to you of all your sins done in this evil life, and burn them out of you after?
Jesus Christ paid for the sins of the present evil world, so that any in Him will never be ashamed and their sins, though black as coal, will be white as snow. He will not remember the transgressions of this life commited by any person.
But... those who are entered into His death, His rest, will not be returned in the millineum, and be under no threat of the second death, total obliteration. For at that time a man must account for every word and every deed. What people think is going to happen at the end of this age.
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firstborn888
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:00 pm |
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Joined: Fri May 02, 2008 5:59 am Posts: 318
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Peacetroll wrote: I know people who believe in UR think you will have all your evil impulses and your sins punished out of you if you are not in Christ. Do you really believe that God is going to run a video to you of all your sins done in this evil life, and burn them out of you after? Jesus Christ paid for the sins of the present evil world, so that any in Him will never be ashamed and their sins, though black as coal, will be white as snow. He will not remember the transgressions of this life commited by any person. But... those who are entered into His death, His rest, will not be returned in the millineum, and be under no threat of the second death, total obliteration. For at that time a man must account for every word and every deed. What people think is going to happen at the end of this age.
Hi PT.
Your first sentence is an over generalization. A more accurate statement would be "I know *some* people who believe in UR think you will have all your evil impulses and your sins punished out of you if you are not in Christ".
That which needs to die will die and that which needs to live will live. No problem. "He who is dead is free from sin".
I understand where you are coming from though, "the soul that sins shall surely die". Many see this as you do. If you believe your view is absolute truth - more power to ya'.
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sparrow
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Post subject: Re: Why couldn't mankind have been given a 3rd choice Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:53 am |
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firstborn888 wrote: QOP67 wrote: Maybe that's why I like time travel so much, if I could, the foremost thing on my mind, would be to erase myself from existence if possible, no regrets, no remorse, no pain, no nothing We've probably all felt like that at one time or another. In time you will see the contrast is the reason for the experience of good and evil and also see the meaning of the tree of life. And be thrilled that you exist.
Ditto!
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DrGuitar
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Post subject: 3rd choice? How about no choice ?? Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:05 am |
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Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 10:48 pm Posts: 56 Location: Wash DC area
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God loves you..there is really no choice..every kneel shall bow..all shall know his love..you exist because God wanted to make you..one day you will love him if you dont already..In either case He loves you right now
_________________ Life is a process of coming home -Patch Adams
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