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Post subject: Who Am I? Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:37 am |
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Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:37 am Posts: 557 Location: South Africa
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Well even though I started this forum, I guess I should also make an introduction for those of you that do not know me (or what you are up against)
Just kidding.
Well briefly, it all happened for me in 1991 and since then I had always had a problem with many traditional concepts - I guess I got to meet the Father of Love from day one and could write a book on how good He has been for me. Regardless to say, those that know me, I am anti-religion and anti-tradition (you would never guess that by reading my posts LoL)
For me the key question was always, where did it all go wrong? Trying to equate what IMO was a fulfilled mission by Jesus representing the Father, why was there sooo much differing opinions of God? My studies lead me to see that there definitely was a mixing of law and Grace and IMO just like new wine and old wine skins, new patch on an old garment, they two do not mix and never will. In fact what I have seen is a determined conspiracy by the old Judaic system to infiltrate the church and corrupt from within, we have evidence of this happening and recorded in the bible. If any of you have read "Mystery Babylon the Great", you will see that the conspiracy and false doctrines have been introduced and revitalised by those that seek to corrupt the image of the Father Jesus taught. Thankfully we now have access to even the Gnostic texts and when all is considered, it sure looks like Jesus made a huge impression on many folk.
When I read the gospels, I see compassion, forgiveness, tolerance and all the fruits that Paul talks about in 1 Cor 13 and not this demigod that the church mostly espouses. In Jesus teachings - the Love of the Father is unconditional.
Try telling this to folk and they will always rebut with a "yes but..." and immediately, you have conditions - enter the law once again. Unconditional means WITHOUT CONDITIONS thus even the view of atonement I see as conditional and IMO wrong. I do believe that Grace always existed and see the so called fall as wrongly taught too. Kinda makes the Father cranky as He then created us with a "defect" In essence, we were designed as-is with the ability to learn from sin and it is that learning process that unfortunately is what many have tried to control from a carnal standpoint/understanding. When we judge no one just as the Father does not, then really, hope is there for all mankind.
Well I have touched briefly on my beliefs and will share as time permits more on these topics in the future. In the meantime, you can get an idea of how my mind works by reading articles on my blog. I will be porting those here soon as time permits.
Blessings to all you fine folk
PS: I am starting to reference this site as FLF or FLUFF - That is Father's Love Forum. We will have no fluffy feel-good discussions here I am sure - Father's Love, U'll Find Favour?
BitFL
_________________ skype: bernie.kruger
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Post subject: Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:06 am |
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Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 1:11 am Posts: 235
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That is so true SeekerSA about the Judaizers creeping in, Even as Paul preached he warned the present church of his day to be careful of the leven of the pharisees infiltrating into the church, and actualy when looking deeper into this it wouldn't have to be a literal physical man creeping in amoung them but a false belief planted
in the minds of just a few teachers could even unknowingly spread this through the church until it became accepted doctrine and thus the mixing of law with grace, however it was accomplished or the means by which it was accomplished its beginning was started up very early on in the church. Also most of us know through study that along the way through time since its beginning the church adopted many so called pagan practices.
Too much said already, I get too hot on this subject about the formaly traditional organized church and need to wait til we start a discussion thread on this, I didn't mean to misuse the purpose of the central board, Thanks for inviting me over to Fathers Love.
Peace,
Fire Walker
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