http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/enviro ... tists.html

Filling the atmosphere with Greenhouse gases associated with global warming could push the planet into a new ice age, scientists have warned.....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/enviro ... exist.html

2008 was the year man-made global warming was disproved.....

SOTW,

Good articles. Localized pollution and desalinization are other contributing factors. It is not a simple one-sided issue.

John

Whichever way it goes:

Fact human population has increased.

Fact animal population has increased

Fact deforestation has increased.

Without taking in industrial emissions, you have a net increase of CO2 albeit small.

I think what scientists do not know yet is what the net effect will be. The greenhouse effect I see as a myth because rain does tend to absorb gases and bring the stuff back to earth in acid form, acid rain is also a fact.

I think that the ozone holes have not increased in size and alternate in size as they receive less bombardment of UV as the planet wobbles.

The fact that folk are monitoring it is good as now we can detect changes. I also believe we are seeing more extremes in seasons or I am getting old. Winters have been mild in the mid 90's to about 2004 but now the winters are cold and we do not get snow - too dry.

If the northern icecap retreats and grows cyclic with huge seasonal changes, then that too suggests something is up.

Oil will not last forever so green technology is required for future energy and the sooner we develop it the sooner it becomes affordable for all.

Time will tell I suppose.

to argue against climate change would be a shallow arguement because climate change has exsisted in the world and even before man exsisted in the world no doubt.

Where the arguement or devide in viewpoints on climate change begin is with the cause, to say man causes natural climate change would be to dismiss all the natural elements and happenings that effect the climate in much bigger ways than man could ever dream of such as valcanos, sun spots, solar flares and massive deep underground earthquakes releasing large pockets of methane gas into the atmosphere, much of this activity was taking place while the earth was forming far before man came into the picture.

It is becoming more obvious the political enviromentalists
from one extreme to the other can't even agree with each other on the truth of scientific findings, so they advise that man is causing climate change, now they want to charge cattle and dairy farmers a tax for every head of cattle or cow they own because "cows fart too much" they say and it creates too much methane, well if you take man out of the equation the cows would still be farting
and there would be no man to tax and the political huxters would have to find some other way to manipulate and con us out of our freedom, liberty and hard earned money.

When it comes to deforestation, giant corporations, not individual people, did the heavy rape on the forests, the Native Americans lived here and used the wood they needed and the forests did not disappear. in the late 1960's and through the 1970's in Washington state Crown Zellerbach and other big logging companies shiped every last log they could by the trainloads full down to the ports and by ship to Japan while our domestic sawmills were closing by the dozens. then Mt St. Helens volcano blew her top and according to engeneering figures
wiped out more forest land in less than 15 minutes than had been logged in the previous 30 years, now it has been almost 30 years since Mt. St. Helens blew her top and the wilderness area is back , full of elk, deer, cougers and brooks and streams full of fish, it appears mother nature is a greater healer than man gives her credit for. God gets the glory in all things so why should we give glory to man and not God when it comes to the climate? Do the enviromentalists think man has more power over the climate than God does through mother nature?

In saying this I am in no way suggesting that we should go out and purposely misuse the earth through greed, selfishness or lack of consideration for our fellow man, but we should not be afraid to use the things God put in this world for us to use either or deny others the same for their personal needs.

Peace,
Fire Walker

Whether or not you believe there's global warming, there's got to be an explanation as to why the Mid-Atlantic U.S. has not seen a blizzard in the last 10 years. In fact, we had no real signficant snow at all, let alone a blizzard. Yesterday (which was my 53rd birthday BTW), the worst thing we had here in Baltimore, MD was rain. I remember one birthday (my 33rd in 1989) when we actually had a blizzard and I had to cancel a trip I wanted to take to D.C.

Now seeing that blizzards continue in the Midwestern U.S., I will admit that this global warming thing may be a bit exaggerated. When there are no blizzards anywhere during the winter, then we have something to grow grey hairs about.

Chuck

I agree with you Fire Walker. I feel saddened that we are living in a world today where God's creation is being policed by the government and special interest just for personal gain. I got a good chuckle about the cows farting by the way, but yes, it is ridiculous to tax farmers for that!

It seems to me that the vast amounts of fossil fuels that we burn must have an effect on global warming. The earth has about 7 billion people that demand conveniences as never before. How could burning 90 million barrels of oil per day - plus the coal, natural gas not increase the CO2 blanket? What do you think of the following data?

John



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Ever stop to see this, that enviromental extremists argue amounst each other, laws that are worthless get past and
imposed upon the people via their governments and when the very laws that are supposedly meant to make our world a healthier place to live brings instead oppression, unbearable by many and not practicle, so then when it reaches an overbearing burden point contention arises and along comes another war.

The wars that have resulted from oppression and one usualy small elite group of people in power profiting on the oppression of the many are countless, these wars render all the good that these enviromental laws might have done useless, worthless and therefore of no effect.

What point would there be in prohibiting the use of ALL
petroleum products if in opposing their use all together
those that are in power go to war and drop bombs on those who do not comply, bombing oil fields, refineries
and chemical plants and all ships and transports of such products such as railrod trains full of tanker cars, trucks
and retail outlets? And at the same time spreading radio active material around from the bombings, also what about those who oppose nuclear power plants who would bomb these facilities such as Israel did in Iraq years ago?
Can't you see where those burning oil fields, burning power plants, and blown up infra structure of the supposed enemy actualy has wreaked far more damage to the eco system and enviroment around the world as this junk gets into the air currents and is spread around the entire globe in a single war that left more damage to the environment than what it was before the war?

It seems mankind is bent on destroying himself one way if not another and each time those in power intervene they bring more war and destruction by intervening imposing their religion and politics on the world than there was before, the Mayans, Hopis and others may have been truely prophetic about the end of this evil system
by the end of 2012, trust in God and not in man, there is an end to the misery that the world has suffered and endoured outwardly and physicaly for thousands of years by now .

Peace,
Fire Walker

Fire Walker,

Yes you are correct that the utmost environmental nightmare is a war - especially a nuclear one. There is no doubt.

John

The factual details of "global warming" has been steadily coming in over the past few years. Among scientist, there is an growing awareness that the earth is under an increased state of distress, caused by global warming. According to a CNN report, "Animal and plant species have begun dying off or changing sooner than predicted because of global warming....At least 70 species of frogs, mostly mountain-dwellers that had nowhere to go to escape the creeping heat, have gone extinct because of climate change, the analysis says. It also reports that between 100 and 200 other cold-dependent animal species, such as penguins and polar bears are in deep trouble."(Nov 21, 2006)

CNN further said that "scientists.....announced that arctic sea ice cover plummeted to all-time record summertime lows in 2007 - raising the scary spectre that global warming may be pushing some frozen parts of our planet beyond the ability to bounce back.."(March 18, 2008) Earlier reports had said that the icesheet of Greenland was melting, saying: "The fear is that melting ice from Greenland and other Arctic areas could cause sea levels to rise enough to flood low-lying cities, such as Shanghai, China, and New York City, displacing millions of people in the process."("Planet in Peril", CNN, Oct 24, 2007)

The report, Planet in Peril, further stated that "a recent report from the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, made up of scientists from around the world, estimates the sea level rise by 2100 could be as much as 1½ feet.' "That sea level rise is only based on melt from ice sheets, and does not include a new fast flow of ice we have detected in Greenland that is generating additional icebergs," said Dr. Konrad Steffen, a climate scientist with the University of Colorado, Boulder."

The ice in the poles is being adversely affected, along with life there, for "from krill to king crabs, the collapse of a 160-square-mile portion of the Wilkins Ice Shelf in Antarctica could mean many changes for wildlife at the bottom of the world....According to the U.S. National Snow and Ice Data Center, in the past 50 years, the western Antarctic peninsula has undergone the biggest temperature increase on Earth: up .9 degree Fahrenheit, or .5 degree Celsius, in each of the past five decades."(CNN, March 29, 2008)

On March 26, 2008, it was noted that "Some 220 square miles of ice has collapsed in Antarctica and an ice shelf about seven times the size of Manhattan is "hanging by a thread," the British Antarctic Survey said....the Wilkins ice shelf lost about 6 percent of its surface a decade ago...."We are in for a lot more events like this," said professor Ted Scambos, a glaciologist at the National Snow and Ice Data Center at the University of Colorado at Boulder."(CNN, March 26, 2008)

The latest information, according to CNN News Report, in which nearly 2,000 researchers met in Copenhagen, Denmark, stated that "the world is facing an increasing risk of "irreversible" climate shifts because worst-case scenarios warned of two years ago are being realized, an international panel of scientists has warned. Temperatures, sea levels, acid levels in oceans and ice sheets were already moving "beyond the patterns of natural variability within which our society and economy have developed and thrived," scientists said in a report released Thursday."(March 12, 2009)

In addition, the oceans are forming "dead zones", which are areas of bottom waters too oxygen depleted to support most ocean life. According to a Scientific American report, they "are spreading, dotting nearly the entire east and south coasts of the U.S. as well as several west coast river outlets. According to a new study in Science, the rest of the world fares no better—there are now 405 identified dead zones worldwide, up from 49 in the 1960s—and the world's largest dead zone remains the Baltic Sea, whose bottom waters now lack oxygen year-round."

The article continued: "This is no small economic matter. A single low-oxygen event (known scientifically as hypoxia) off the coasts of New York State and New Jersey in 1976 covering a mere 385 square miles (1,000 square kilometers) of seabed ended up costing commercial and recreational fisheries in the region more than $500 million...."More than 212,000 metric tons [235,000 tons] of food is lost to hypoxia in the Gulf of Mexico," says marine biologist Robert Diaz of The College of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia.....Only a few dead zones have ever recovered, such as the Black Sea, which rebounded quickly in the 1990s with the collapse of the Soviet Union and a massive reduction in fertilizer runoff from fields in Russia and Ukraine. Fertilizer contains large amounts of nitrogen, and it runs off of agricultural fields in water and into rivers, and eventually into oceans."("Ocean Dead Zones Continue to Spread", Aug 15, 2008)

Man has charted a course that has resulted in the devastation of the earth. Some of it was a lack of awareness or understanding of the earth's delicate ecological system. On the other hand, much of it is based on greed, without any regard for consequences, such as overfishing the oceans, with now over 90 percent of the "big" fish - tuna, swordfish, and marlin - are already gone.(Nature, 2003)

Our Creator long ago recognized that "it does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his own step."(Jer 10:23) Man, as whole, has disregarded God's laws and principles. Jeremiah noted: "Look ! They have rejected the very word of Jehovah and what wisdom do they have ? "(Jer 8:9) Hence, God will "bring to ruin those ruining the earth."(Rev 11:18) Jesus told the evil-doer to one side of him of his Father's original purpose, that the earth will be restored to a "Paradise".(Luke 23:43)

Revelation 21:3-5 adds the removal of, not only greedy and wicked people, but sickness and death as well, saying: "With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away. And the One seated on the throne said: “Look! I am making all things new.” Also, he says: “Write, because these words are faithful and true.”

Jaareshiah,

That was a great post, Jaareshiah. I agree that we are going against Our Creator's Laws of good stewardship. This is one more of the lessons we are being taught and that lesson is that whether we are dealing with this physical world or the coming spiritual one we must learn the downside of Greed - because on every level greed will be our undoing!! I certainly have no cristal ball as to when that is for sure but personally I feel that the end of this madness is just on the horison.

John

Hello Johnny 27,

The destruction of the earth's ecological system is having major consequences. It's impact is now being felt throughout the world. For example, in the oceans, the calcium carbonate in shells and coral helps to stabilize the chemistry of the water "much as an antacid works on our stomach", says a report by the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. However, according to a recent CNN report, it said that "The world has lost almost one-fifth of its coral reefs according a new report released by the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN).

This was "compiled by the Global Coral Reef Monitoring Network, the report has brought together the work of researchers from 15 countries with data stretching back 20 years." It further stated: "It's not just climate change -- which raises ocean temperatures and increases seawater acidification -- which is damaging reefs. In some parts of the world overfishing, pollution and invasive species are proving equally harmful. Scientists are warning that reef destruction will have alarming consequences for around 500 million people who rely on coral reefs for their livelihood. Left unchecked, remaining reefs could be completely wiped out by 2050."

Though the report says that "Forty-five percent of the world's reefs are currently in good health and the hope remains that damaged reefs can recover and adjust to the changing conditions", there is still an ongoing devastation of the coral reefs. Professor Olof Linden from the World Maritime University in Malmo, Sweden, told CNN: "We see a great and imminent threat of more reefs being lost."("World's coral reefs are vanishing, report says", CNN, Dec 10, 2008)

Previously, a CNN report noted that "A team of international scientists led by Dr James Hansen, director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, say that carbon dioxide (CO2) levels are already in the danger zone. Concentrations of CO2 in the atmosphere currently stand at 385 parts per million (ppm) and are rising at a rate of two ppm per year. This is enough, say the scientists, to encourage dangerous changes to the Earth's climate." It further said that "as a result we risk expanding desertification, food shortages, increased storm intensities, loss of coral reefs and the disappearance of mountain glaciers that supply water to hundreds of millions of people. It is a departure from the previous climate estimates which predict that perilous CO2 levels will be reached later in the century."("Carbon dioxide levels already a danger", Nov 22, 2008)

Our living planet is being harassed by selfish mankind. Unfortunately, we all may contribute to the problem, by the emission of carbon monoxide from our vehicles. In the beginning of man's existence, after God had made Adam and later Eve, he placed them in Eden, which literally means "pleasure" in Hebrew, in a garden.(Gen 2:8,15) In later texts, it is spoken of as “Eden, the garden of God” (Eze 28:13), and as “the garden of Jehovah.”(Isa 51:3) The Greek Septuagint rendered the Hebrew word for “garden” (gan) by the Greek word pa·ra´dei·sos. To this fact we owe our association of the English word “paradise” with the garden of Eden.

Hence, when Jesus told the evil-doer that he would be with him "Paradise"(Luke 23:43), he was not referring to heaven, as the churches contend, but rather to the earth as being restored to it's original pristine beauty. At Psalms 37:11, David was inspired to write that "the meek ones themselves will possess the earth, and they will find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace." Verse 29 says that "they will reside forever upon it." Jesus confirmed these words, saying: "Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth."(Matt 5:5, King James Bible)

Hi all
I totally agree that we are destroying our earth in more than one way, but when it comes to global warming I am not too sure that we are having that problem. Here are two links to show that global warming might not be caused by man....

http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemanscor ... 09397.html

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... rming.html


Faith

Good links Faith,
thanks for posting these links. Just like Craig has said
all of this fear mongering about global warming and freezing is nothing more than religious age old fear tactics used to control the masses while a small group of elites get rich and powerful at everyone elses expense.

Al Gore and all those promoting false prophesies who for the sake of reaping power and money or wars for profit now through deception at the rest of mankinds expense have their reward and when they fall into the ditch with their false prophesies their rewards gained through greed and imposed rule over others shall be burned away and perish in the wind.

We could be better stewards without being mislead, oppressed and imposed upon by false prophets, money changers and political/religious huxters who desire nothing more than to have total control and rule over the rest of mankind for their own self centered, self righteous, self willed greedy agenda.
Peace,
Fire Walker

There have always been skeptics throughout history, such as those who deny that man landed on the moon, the danger that Mt. St. Helens would erupt in 1980, or that the flood that God told Noah to prepare for would occur.(Gen 6:13-22; Matt 24:37-39) Likewise, there are those skeptical that global warming is a reality, even some in the scientific field. Although there is no unity on the subject, here is some more evidence that the earth is being damaged.

Of interest is that "the new president of the Maldives wants to relocate -- his entire country....The Maldives is an archipelago of almost 1,200 coral islands located south-southwest of India. Most of the islands lie just 4.9 feet (1.5 meters) above sea level. The United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has forecast a rise in sea levels of at least 7.1 inches (18 cm) by the end of the century."(CNN, Nov 11, 2008)

In 1987, it was designated as "officially the hottest year on record to date. Three years later the 1980s is confirmed as the hottest decade since records began." This was later readjusted, stating that "the hottest year on record (was 1995). Four years later the 1990s are confirmed as the hottest decade in 1000 years." It further added that "the IPCC report for that year states that "the balance of evidence suggests a discernible human influence on global climate." For 2003, it said that "Europe experiences one the hottest summers on record causing widespread drought claiming the lives of over 30,000 people." It then noted in 2008, that "160 square miles of the Wilkins Shelf breaks away from the Antarctic coast. Scientists are concerned that climate change may be happening faster than previously thought."("A timeline of climate change", CNN, May 14, 2008)

It is now established that "between 1.5 trillion and 2 trillion tons of ice in Greenland, Antarctica and Alaska has melted at an accelerating rate since 2003, according to NASA scientists." It added that "using new satellite technology that measures changes in mass in mountain glaciers and ice sheets, NASA geophysicist Scott Luthcke concluded that the losses amounted to enough water to fill the Chesapeake Bay 21 times. NASA's Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment, or GRACE, mission uses two orbiting satellites to measure the "mass balance" of a glacier, or the net annual difference between ice accumulation and ice loss."

Jay Zwally, NASA colleague, noted that "in the past five years, Greenland has lost between 150 gigatons and 160 gigatons each year, (one gigaton equals one billion tons) or enough to raise global sea levels about .5 mm per year." and according to NASA, "GRACE measured that mountain glaciers in the Gulf of Alaska lost about 84 gigatons each year, about five times the average annual flow of the Colorado River through the Grand Canyon." He further noted that "in the 1990s, Greenland took in as much snow and water as it let out. But now, about 15 years later, sea levels are rising about 50 percent faster, making the global climate situation even more unpredictable. "Every few extra inches of sea level have very significant economic impacts, because they change the sea level, increase flooding and storm damage,"("Ice melting across globe at accelerated rate, NASA says", Planet in Peril, CNN, Dec. 17, 2008)

And on another note, after looking more critically of mammals on the earth, the team led by Jan Schipper of the International Union for the Conservation of Nature in Gland, Switzerland, concluded that ""Our results paint a bleak picture of the global status of mammals worldwide. We estimate that one in four species is threatened with extinction and that the population of one in two is declining," It added that "the new report updates the IUCN's Red List of Threatened Species, which overall includes 44,838 species, of which 16,928 are threatened with extinction. Of these, 3,246 are in the highest-category of threat, critically endangered, 4,770 are endangered and 8,912 are vulnerable to extinction. The IUCN estimated that 76 mammal species have gone extinct since 1500."("1 in 4 mammals at risk of extinction, scientist say", Planet in Peril, CNN, Oct 6, 2008)

In 2007, It became evident that "ice cover in the Arctic Ocean, long held to be an early warning of a changing climate, has shattered the all-time low record this summer, according to scientists from the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder. Using satellite data and imagery, NSIDC now estimates the Arctic ice pack covers 4.24 million square kilometers (1.63 million square miles) -- equal to just less than half the size of the United States. This figure is about 20 percent less than the previous all-time low record of 5.32 million square kilometers (2.05 million square miles) set in September 2005."("Artic sea ice cover at record level", Planet in Peril, CNN, Sept 11, 2007)

Climatology is admittedly a complex science. “For example, what will happen to clouds as Earth warms? Will high-flying, heat-absorbing clouds that would cause additional heating become more frequent than dense, sunlight-blocking clouds?” asks Earth Observatory, an online publication. The answer? “As of now, scientists can’t answer these questions.”

On the other hand, the Bible affirms that God, whose name is Jehovah, is the “Producer of heaven and earth,” including “the cloud masses above.” (Genesis 14:19; Proverbs 8:28) He poetically described himself as having put “wisdom in the cloud layers.” Yes, Jehovah, the Creator, fully understands what scientists cannot.(Job 38:36)

The earth was created for a purpose, that of human habitation, despite the damage that is being caused by man's greed or lack of knowledge regarding the complex ecological arrangements. At Isaiah 45:18, it says: "For this is what Jehovah has said, the Creator of the heavens, He the [true] God, the Former of the earth and the Maker of it, He the One who firmly established it, who did not create it simply for nothing, who formed it even to be inhabited."

Hence, the earth was designed by God for man's habitation forever and in order to solve the major problems now confronting mankind, no matter where one lives, requires that our Creator, Jehovah God, take necessary action. He has an appointed time in which to do so, to "bring to ruin those ruining the earth"(Rev 11:18), whether physically, spiritually, or morally, at what is called in the Bible, Armageddon,(Rev 16:16) "the war of the great day of God the Almighty".(Rev 16:14)

Well there does appear to be a differance between those who are sceptical and those who look at all sides of sientific evidence and wiegh it out for practical balance.

Anytime the motivation to do anything based on mans fears for what may, might or could happen the outcome is negative preaching.

In reading the account of Noah, it is what he didn't do that I look at more than what he did do, he did not become a political activist going about telling others that if they would do this, that and thus that they could prevent the flood from coming and make profit for himself or try to control others or lord it over them regarding their life, he didn't preach to them saying that man was causing this great flood to come and that they should do all possible to prevent it (if he did scripture is silient on that) he did warn of what was coming because of his revelation given from God and this work was all done in preparing for what was to come, he did not try to deceive folks into thinking they could prevent what was coming because he had been given to know God is soveriegn, he was directed step by step to prepare for the flood not prevent it. He trusted in God and not in man and it is God who gets the glory not Noah.

Scientists today have the means to monitor climate change on other solar planets other than Earth, planets where man does not exsist and are finding that there are changes taking place on these planets too.

MT ST Helens, Yes, I lived very near that mountain when it errupted and in no way can I see that man could have prevented this erruption, those who like many others that lived within the hazard zone took heed and avoided the area and made preperations to live elsewhare when and if it did errupt, some houses were destroyed, others were spared depending on the location to the blast, others like Harry Truman was old and chose not to leave, not because he was a sceptic but because he chose to stay knowing very well the mountain was going to blow very shortly at that time.

To deny that there is climate change would be as blind as
to deny there are seasons, four of them within each year,
every one of these seasons has a purpose and there is not one thing we can do to prevent them just because we may not like the cold of winter, alergies in the spring the heat of summer, hay fever in the fall or a nieghbors camp fire because it smokes.

Peace,
Fire Walker

Throughout various generations there have been those who were skeptical or doubtful and for some, understandably so, for Proverbs 14:15 says that "any one inexperienced puts faith in every word, but the shrewd one considers his steps." However, the evidence that the earth's delicate ecological balance is being greatly disturbed has merit now, for the indications are more pronounced than ever before. As the months and years go by, it is apparent that more compelling evidence will be seen. The "shrewd one" is seeing that the earth's ecology is being upset, and is having major implications upon it's eco-systems.

The "shrewd one" also has seen that "I well know, O Jehovah, that to earthling man his way does not belong. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his own step."(Jer 10:23) Hence, despite the considerable number of scientist and ecologists working toward solving the earth's problems inflicted upon it by the masses of mankind, the complexity of the ecological balance of the earth is showing itself as beyond man to repair by human intelligence or capabilty.

The impact that global warming is having upon the earth, is noted in the Vancover Sun (Canada, British Columbia), that "dozens of glacier systems that provide drinking water to communities across the province are at their lowest ebb in 5,000 to 8,000 years, according to researchers at the University of Victoria." It's forecast: "The glacial retreat that started in 1992 has seen two major ice shelf collapses and is continuing to accelerate. Increasingly hot, droughty summers risk of potentially toxic algae blooms in drawn-down fresh water supplies."("The State Of Our World", March 19, 2009)

For Canada, it also forecast that "temperatures in Calgary are expected to rise up to 3.5 C(centigrade) by mid-century and leave the Red Deer River with 13 percent less water, the Bow with a 10 percent decrease, the South Saskatchewan with 8.5 percent less water and the Oldman with a four percent reduction."

Our Creator, Jehovah God, is the One who has "himself in wisdom founded the earth. He solidly fixed the heavens in discernment. By his knowledge the watery deeps were split apart, and the cloudy skies keep dripping down light rain."(Prov 3:19,20) He has already put place an arrangement to restore the destructive pattern of man, whether it is by effects of global warming or since his deflection in the Garden of Eden some 6000 years ago.(Gen 3:15) Jesus taught his followers to pray for that arrangement - God's kingdom - to undo the damaging effect that Adam, our forefather caused.(Matt 6:9,10)

Hi all

This winter I read some articles with some scientist’s take on what is happening to our pine cones. They said that the trees were producing a lot less pine cones. They said that there was a lot less pine cones laying around. In our yard we have a lot of squirrels. For the last 2 years we didn’t have to rake up the pine cones. The squirrels gathered all the pine cones up in a piles. It was very interesting to watch as one of the pine cone hills was right near our house window. They were even very territorial about it. It seemed that the squirrels had their area to gather cones and even some times they crossed invisible borders to steal from other areas. The last 2 winters we had a lot more snow than usual. I also confirmed this with another person who had a yard similar to mine and the same thing happened in their yard.

There was a problem with the aspen tree and the vegetation in Yellowstone Park. I watched a documentary on it. They showed pictures of the park areas before wolves were introduced and after. The change was very dramatic. The lake had more water, soo much more vegetation and increased in insects and other life. This is a link explaining some of what happened…

http://www.yellowstonepark.com/MoreToKn ... newsid=131

There could be less cones on our trees and maybe that is why the squirrels are gathering, don’t know. But, I think our scientists need to study more to really know what is going on, whether there is global warming, global freezing or what ever.

Faith