Today as i was browsing the internet, in the late night, i came across of an article of Martin Zender that said that the end times were coming and in these couple of years exactly that is what is happening ..
OK ! I do know that these months i had been having alot of troubles in religious and emotional manners that made me a bit less confident in some UR writings and all religion(and sometimes to a boiling point ),but seeing Martin to go so far as to proclaim the new coming of Christ to happen in the next 3 and a half years realy send me to the sky ..and dropping downword with high speed !
So ok ..is the poor guy loosing his mind and becoming even more crazy than i am ,or can what he is saying be actualy happening?

Acording to what he says we are coming nearer and nearer to one world goverment than ever before and many more stuff .. I will leave you to read for yourselfs.

You can read the thing in PDF from Zender 's site ,after you subscrive you will get an email with a link for download .It is listed in the fourth page till the end of the pages .
Sorry but i cant atach it because the file is too big .If you cant read it ,or find it from the page ,i may put it in some picture site and then send you links.

Hi Friend
Hope you have been well

You did not even care about the main topic about Martin ,but did care about how i was ..thank you for being such a good person.
I dont need to say enything more .I will send you a pm .

Hi VID,

I really wouldn't take to heart what Martin had said. People have been forecasting the Coming of The Lord since His ascension. The Jehovahs Witnesses said He would come in 1917. Of course the prophecy failed. The Seventh Day Adventists said He would come before the end of the 20th century. Here it is, 9 years into the 21st century, and still, no sign of the Coming of The Lord. Then you have the preterists, who said that Christ had returned in 70 AD. as evidenced by the destruction of Jerusalem.

Jesus said himself it was not for us to know the times or seasons that God has put in his own power. Therefore NOBODY knows when The Lord will come. He may come tormorrow, and then he may not come for a million years. Then again there are people like myself, who don't believe Christ ever left, so the question is who exactly are these people really waiting for?

I'm also certain not all UR believers share Martin's views on that matter. In fact, individual UR believers tend to have conflicting viewpoints. Many believe free-will to be a fallacy, while others say it's a fact. Some believe in reincarnation while others don't. Some even believe in soul-immortality while others teach soul sleep. Since UR has no creed, there is no common bond for Christian Universalists other than Jesus Christ is the Savior of All Men. In fact, Gary Amirault of Tentmaker Ministries has said that the UR cause needs to have more involvement by conservatives, citing that a large majority tends to be liberal.

So you see, in the UR movement, what we have is really a motley crew.

Chuck

Well Chuck it appears to me that same way, Christ never left and for all those who can see this and trust what Jesus said before he departed that he would not leave us orphaned. Certainly we know him no more after the flesh and as the disciples said that though they knew him while he was here in the flesh they know him no more after the flesh, until he departed (ascended) he could not send the spirit, in spirit he is always here with us, though not all can see this yet, or see it in bits and pieces, or in part.

VID, There are many who like Zender have predicted the end, yet does a man believe a day ends until it ends? time itself doesn't end when a day ends, I may die yet the day doesn't end so as Paul pointed out we die daily., The days were begining, ending and begining over and over again before I came into this world and no doubt they are going to continue to do so after I am gone from this world

As far as an end to time itself? I believe God has a place in the age of ages where the fullness of time is fullfilled, when God shall be ALL in ALL, once we leave time there is no measure as we measure time in this world,measured time appears related to the ages not to the Glories, Christ is the Alpha and the Omega.

Peace,
Fire Walker

My question for you is why care so much what *anyone* says or predicts? He is just a guy with an opinion..big deal..like all of us


I do think Jesus will come and there will be a culmination of history but when? who knows?

Anyway the planet will be used up in terms of resources eventually..I mean can you imagine a world population of 200 billion? If Jesus doesn't come back by then we'll all be dead when he finally does arrive..kind of like getting to a wedding reception when the food and liquor are all gone!!