Malachi 3
1Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the LORD, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.

As the prophet said so it happened. Here he declares,

Isaiah 40:3The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

4Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:

And here it is verified,

John 1:22Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself?

23He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias.

Who, then was the Lord who came suddenly to His temple? Jesus had planned to reveal his true identity to the apostles...but at the perfect time....

John 16
25These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father

Below....you Jesus explains his true identity...because that time had come!

John 20:27Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

28And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God.

29Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

Either Christ was God in the flesh, or he was not. If he was not, and the scriptures from John be true, then Thomas was seriously off track and Jesus a liar, or Jesus is God in the flesh, and Thomas was truly blessed....I believe Thomas was BLESSED.

Isaiah 43:10-12
Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God.

Jude 1:14-16
And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.

John 8:58
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.


1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.


2 Thessalonians 1
7And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

This past year I have kind of touched on this teaching, a lot of it was from Ray Smith saying it was wrong, then I read differing opinions on here. I don't know if you read the book The Shack, but they kind of go there in the story and it threw me off a little. I am just all over the place! Anyway, it is just going to take time for us to understand things so thanks for posting these verses. I need to get back into studying more and these verses shed some much needed light. I just don't call it the Trinity anymore though.

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

First and foremost, the report from Paul in the above scripture is as straight forward as you can get, if we do not believe the report of Paul, then shall we believe the reports of the prophets before him? I think not. Regardless...for those who seek the true nature and identity of Jesus Christ in truth, read on.

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

I've seen people try to 'spin' Isaiah's verse into oblivion as well; I've come to the point in my travel to no longer argue with those who can not see the direct point made in both the above scriptures.

Isaiah 53:1
Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?

And who is the arm of the Lord? Can anyone pull the nuclear fusion furnace we call the 'sun' down to their backyard for a close inspection without destroying the earth in the process?....How much more would the full body of God consume and destroy the universe if he were to actually enter it?

Therefore, in order to interact with his creations..his children...he created a body to dwell in, a tabernacle....in which he could reside....thus tabernacling with us, we the unworthy and filthy whom he loves and loved enough to travel to a far land, risking his own kingdom by leaving it in the hands of his servants against those who would take it by force.... in order to save us (his lost sheep) from the clutches of death...to free us from the prison designed to entrap and destroy us.

Isaiah 56:1
Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.

And let it be understood that Jesus did proclaim his salavation....when he told many that the 'kingdom of God' had come near them. THat kingdom is Christ...the salavation of God...the narrow gate.

Hosea 13:4
Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.

If there be no saviour beside God, then who is this man Jesus? The Jews understood, and do hate Christ for his insinuation. THey understood clearly that he proclaimed himself as God in the flesh. For no one but God can forgive sins.

Isaiah 43:11
I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

If there is no savior but the true LORD, who is Jesus?

Philippians 3:20
For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

Jesus = Saviour = no saviour but God = God tabernacled in a flesh body. Else Christ is a liar and the 'so called' Jews are right....of course I think not.

2 Timothy 1:10
But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:

Jeremiah 11:20
But, O LORD of hosts, that judgest righteously, that triest the reins and the heart, let me see thy vengeance on them: for unto thee have I revealed my cause.

2 Thessalonians 1:6-8

Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;
And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Logical conclusion:

(paraphrased from Jeremiah) O'h LORD of hosts, let me see they vengeance on them.... = the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with HIS mighty angels, in flaming fire taking VENGEANCE on them that KNOW NOT GOD....

Hmmmm....that's a really tough connection huh! You'd be really stretching logical deduction to see a connection between Jeremiah's GOD and Jesus...huh! Since the only thing they have in common is the fact that they take vengeance on the evil who know not God! And they both have ANGELS! I mean...one would be really stretching it to see a parrallel between the two, right??!!!

Matthew 23:34
Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

Matthew 23:34 ....Jesus proclaims that he sent the prophets...hmmmmmm......

Jeremiah 25:4
And the LORD hath sent unto you all his servants the prophets, rising early and sending them; but ye have not hearkened, nor inclined your ear to hear.

Na, no connection....can't be.

Amos 3:7
Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

Matthew 11:27
All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.


John 12:38
That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed?

John 14:9
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

John 20:

And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God.
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:

If Jesus actually said this to Thomas, what more proof does one need? This is agency...yes....and much much more.

For there is no saviour beside the TRUE LORD....and he did come and tabernacle in his temple...not a temple made of stones and rock..and timber...but of flesh and blood....and his name was and is...JESUS CHRIST.

I'm flabergasted, and have nothing I could add to what you have posted! I wondered when you would post after reading your newcomer post, and I wish to congratulate you on your knowledge and use of scripture to explain the truth of the matter!
I will be looking forward to your posts with enthusiasm.
Joy and love, in the knowledge of Jesus,
Peacetroll

There are a couple of scriptures I'd like to add to what has gone before. The first is below.

Revelation 22:6
And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.

Here is tthe second.

Revelation 22:16
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

What more is there to say about this subject?

Peacetroll,

Nice scriptural parrallel you found there...bravo! The logical conclusion I see is that God is Christ Jesus...and Jesus is God! The one and only in the flesh! The tabernacle not built with hands...not with rocks and timber!

Much more then an 'agency', for an 'agency' is what those who labor in the field are in truth......the disciples are 'agents' or in the 'agency' of Christ. Christ is God manifest in the flesh. NO ONE ELSE was without sin, and no man (but God), can overcome this physical prison. All fall short of the Glory of God...and the Glory of God is CHRIST JESUS!

hi everyone;i don't post much but God has been putting stuff on my heart.what he has been putting on my heart is starting to ring true in my spirit,so i'm seeking the kingdom and sorting it all out slowly.
basically what i've been sensing is that we are supposed to follow the way of jesus because he shows us what life and truth are all about.we are also to be doing even greater things than jesus did... so if this is the case are we like God?i venture to say, like jesus we are extensions of God or a facet of God.
when the holy spirit hovered over mary(like he hovered over the waters)God imparted his dna(so to speak) in jesus.this was for that time and purpose.i feel God is doing that again but on a bigger scale...that is why i feel we all are to be extensions of God but not necessarily God.the glory will be revealed through us but the glory is not ours.
so i guess to me jesus was a forerunner.... the way and the truth.jesus was a son and we too become sons and daughters
blessings fred

Jesus was the Father and the Son, same God.

1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

2 John 1:9
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

John 14:8Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.


9Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

Salvation is by the grace of God, in the person of Jesus Christ, who is the Glory of God. Our duty is to believe in the perfect God dying in the flesh in this evil world for all we wretches, and to live as we believe, loving Jesus with all your heart and mind, and treat you neighbor as you want to be treated.

As He said;

Luke 6:46And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

47Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:

Remember;1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

He has tasted death for all of us who believe. Our flesh may die, but He is our life, and you in Him, and He in you, you will never die.

That is directly from the Mouth of God.

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John11:25Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

26And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

Who is it that lives and believes? You and I and all who believe. Who was dead yet then lives? You and I and all who believe.
We were dead in ou tresspasses.

Colossians 2:13
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

Peacetroll,
You'll find that most of us here are not into the 'bible wars' (AKA quoting scriptures to prove we are right and others are wrong). That's just religion and theology and (IMO) is best left to the pharisees and such. God is into the love which resides in your heart and the kindness you show to your brothers and sisters and not so much into correct dogma.
It's love joy and peace which comprises the kingdom .
Grace and peace to you,
- Byron

God is into truth. If one is not scripturally equipped to fight the info war with the opponents of Jesus Christ, how can you speak with the enemies in the gate? This is speaking of the children of God, prepared facing those who oppose.

Psalm 127
1Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.

2It is vain for you to rise up early, to sit up late, to eat the bread of sorrows: for so he giveth his beloved sleep.

3Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.

4As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth.

5Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.

We are admonished by the Lord not to be ignorant of the words of the Lord.

Hosea 4:5Therefore shalt thou fall in the day, and the prophet also shall fall with thee in the night, and I will destroy thy mother.

6My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

7As they were increased, so they sinned against me: therefore will I change their glory into shame.

Love is wonderfull, and we must have love, but e must not be uninformed about the things of God!

Paul instructed us about the same thing.

2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
If you are unable to prove your view from scripture because of lack of knowledge, how can you know or defend the truth?
You will be in the same position as the ethiopian God sent Philip to.

26And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.

27And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,

28Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.

29Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.

30And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?

31And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

IMO you're trapped in a jihad of sorts where you are required to fend off a supposed enemy based on manuscripts.

The real God is not petty like that (IMO) and is not into theology as religious people are

You don't realize there is a warfare going on? If you want to disregard what the Paul instructed all to do to be approved of God, that is your decision. God is good, and a Father, and an instructor in the way, and He said to occupy untill He comes. It truly is a war. One is either a soldier in it, an unaligned (95%], or an opposing force.

Luke 19:12He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.

13And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.

14But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.


Examples, since your disregard the apostle's instruction to study and be outfitted for the war.

2 Corinthians 10:3For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:

4(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)

5Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

1 Timothy 1:17Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

18This charge I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare;

Jesus is the head of this warfare. We who struggle in His name are the soldiers.

Isaiah 59:16And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.

17For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloak.

Ephesians 6:13Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

The war is to break oppression and abuse , not to fight for correct theology and to argue doctrine



Perfect (fully matured) love casts out fear...

Where did you come up with that? What fear? The truth and understanding as much as you can is fearfull?

God had this to say of scripture.

Isaiah 28:9
Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

Paul said to STUY to show yourself accepted. He also wrote this'

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Titus 1:9
Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.

Jesus said;

John 5:39
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

The writer of acts gave accolade to those who did just that.
Acts 17:11
These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

If you don't believe you should be able to prove what you believe for dogma, and can not defend it with many scriptures, how can you decern scriptural abuse?

What I discern is spiritual abuse! (religiosity) - AKA - bible wars, arguing doctrine ect ect. Walk in perfect love and all righteousness will be fulfilled.

If you choose to disregard the instruction of God and His prophets and deciples as to knowledge that is your choice.
Perfect love is wonderfull and that is who God is, We can only emulate it to the best of our ability.
But we have instructions and a guarrantee from Jesus about what we should do. Some will do it, some won't.

Luke 11:9And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

10For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.


Revelation 3:7
And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;

If you ignor what He said, how can you possibly be included in this number?

Revelation 14:3And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

4These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

5And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

Paul was not certain of his standing before Christ.

1 Corinthians 9:23And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.

24Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.

Philippians 3:12Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.

13Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,

14I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

Paul said this of Godly knowledge.

Ephesians 1:16Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers;

17That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

18The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,

If you are content with the faith and understanding you have, no amount of admonitions from the scriptures will move you to run the race.
One last thing.

Matthew 13:11He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

12For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

13Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

I have no more to say about this subject. Three times I have responded with what little I have to give on it, but it is enough. May it go well with you in that day.

I think the possible problem is outlined above. In the new covenant we die and God actually lives His life through us. That's why for me there is no need to try and be approved by God - it is Him in me doing the works. That's why I don't do bible wars. If you cannot see that yet then continue as you are till you see the futility of the "best of our ability".

May you have a blessed day as well!

I realized after reading your last post that you have misunderstood my reasons for study and knowledge.
It has nothing to do with being saved, that is accomplished by believing Jesus Christ is the Messiah, and died and rose again for the forgivness of your sins.

The reason I posted the scriptures of exhortation to seek, knock, and study was as what Paul was talking about when he said study to be approved.
Approved for what? To be a part of the bride of Christ. Part of that 144,00 who are spotless, without guile [falsehood] in their mouths.
Paul said what that number will do, for they must, or they are not in the race.

Hebrews 6:1Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

2Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

3And this will we do, if God permit.

My point was that we do what must be done in hope of qualifying to be part of that number.

Psalm 32:2
Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

Revelation 14:4These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

5And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

Hope you understand. Has nothing to do with being saved. It is because as the Lord said, many are called few are chosen. Chosen for what? That number. It is a race.

Thanks PT, that explains a lot. I didn't realize that you were a virgin vying for a spot on that roster. I am out of the running since I am married with children

Your disregard for scriptural instruction and lack of parable decerment is noted.
Tell it to the author when you see Him.

Matthew 11:29
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

Luke 12:41Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all?

42And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?

43Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.

44Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.

45But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken;

46The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

47And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

48But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

All who believe Jesus was the Messiah, and died for their sins, do all recieve eternal life, but are not given all the same measure of the Holy Spirit, Christ in you, at the judgement of their faith. Whether there is guile, falsehood, in their beliefs about Christ and the Kingdom of God.

Daniel 12:2And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

3And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

4But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.




Jesus said:

Mark 4:20
And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred.

So you do recognize that the content is parabolic. That's good!

I don't think I will be talking much

Some advice... go find a lonely elderly person and take them a gift or just visit them for awhile. I guarantee you will be infinitely closer to fufilling the will of God than when doing online bible wars

Truer words were never spoken.

I don't think you'll be doing much talking either. Belittleing Jesus Christ's instructions is a great way to get His attention.
Bye the bye, why do you post on bible studies when you proclaim to the world you refuse to do exactly that?
As the scripture says, many are called and few are chosen.

If you are chosen then you will do the works of Jesus.

Hopefully I have shared some practical knowledge of God with you. If nothing I said edified you then sorry I wasted both your time and my time.

Carry on....