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 Post subject: How much more before a massive uprising?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:07 am 
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Sec. of State Hillary Clinton pledges $900 Million to rebuild the Gaza strip, what? First off we send Isreal 3 Billion dollars a year in addition to state of the art military arms and equipment, second off Israel uses this military equipment to destroy the Gaza schools, hospitals, resturants, markets, farms, religious and other civilian intitutions and massive civilian deaths including babies, children, women and the old folks, then the US pays to rebuild it? Isn't something drasticly unbalanced and wrong with that picture?

We are going down the economic sink hole in the US and around the world from already doing these same things for many generations now, and people are starting to wake up to the fact that continuing to throw good money after bad in these same things are not going to accomplish anything more than the same rotten conditions magnified to an even greater strife level than we have already sown around the world.

Why don't our poliicians just plain let it all fall now and serve the people that put them in office instead of bringing the Nation into ever greater bondage with every passing year by serving the interests of those who want to control and enslave the world? Maybe this is what scripture is pointing out about those who are dead while living, and that God has appointed the most basest of men to rule over the Nations, those that are dead while living, otherwise how could they be so blind?

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We're supporting our democratic allies while also coming to the aid of those civilians caught in the crossfire of their conflicts. It's seems like a catch 22. What do you suggest as a solution?


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From what I saw, it looked like genocide.


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sparrow wrote:
From what I saw, it looked like genocide.


I am very sympathetic to the plight of the Palestinians as a people and I try not to buy 100% into either side of the rhetoric. What happened to the civilians is horrible. The Hamas members who fire rockets from neighborhoods and schools are conscious-less. There is just nothing good coming out of this.

If you were Israel how would you handle Hamas?

If you were Hamas how would you handle Israel?


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firstborn888 wrote:
sparrow wrote:
From what I saw, it looked like genocide.


I am very sympathetic to the plight of the Palestinians as a people and I try not to buy 100% into either side of the rhetoric. What happened to the civilians is horrible. The Hamas members who fire rockets from neighborhoods and schools are conscious-less. There is just nothing good coming out of this.

If you were Israel how would you handle Hamas?

If you were Hamas how would you handle Israel?


I have no answers. I really don't.
But what upset me so much was Israel not letting up.
I mean after all of the children that were killed...
they just kept going and going and going and going....

I had been reading a lot about the Palestinians and how it has been like living in a prison, and all of the things that Israel has done. I have far more sympathy for the palestinians. I feel they have truly gotten the short end of the stick. I have Jewish blood. My grandmother was 100% jew, my father is 1/2 Jewish. I am not anti-jewish. I am only trying to sort out what is happening. So far, everything I've read has led me to believe that Israel was very wrong. It's hard to find truth.... I don't know for sure. It's very frustrating.


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firstborn888 wrote:
We're supporting our democratic allies while also coming to the aid of those civilians caught in the crossfire of their conflicts. It's seems like a catch 22. What do you suggest as a solution?


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The US has also supported Allies who were not democratic
such as Russia during WWII when they were the USSR, from all I have studied about communist Joe Stalin and his red jewish commizars and their atrocities against Christians, the more democratic minded Russians and those they considered to be lessor Jews and their nieghbors in near by countries made Hitlers atrocities look like kindergarten play. The US also supported, supplied, trained and used the Osma Bin Ladens al quada to fight against Russia while they were in Afganistan.

Anyway what I was pointing out was the economic and military futility of the US governments support in such large sums of TAX PAYERS money in foriegn aid in times of financial strife here at home, If all foriegn aid to Israel and others such as Egypt is suspended until we recover from our own debts and they are such good friends then they should understand and stand behind us when we are in need, if they can't do that without whining and complaining about it then how can we count them as friendly allies anymore? This suspending foriegn aid isn't something that has yet been tried to any extent so why not our representitives and Senators give that a chance to work for once instead of the samed old failed policies and get our tax payers out of the economic cross fire and our soldiers out of the line of gun fire fighting other countries wars?

Though Israel has manufactured nuclear weapons, they have never openly declared this and tried to hide this fact for years, they imprisoned one of their own, Mordechai Vanunu for over 20 years, most of that 20 years in solitary confinement and isolation for exposing this fact, now he is a prisoner in his own land who is not allowed to leave the country Israel is not signator to the nuclear non proliferation treaty while Iran IS! and so under that treaty Iran has a legal right under International law to persue peaceful use of neclear power, to deny them this legal right to persue the peaceful use of nuclear power is a violation of that treaty!

Out of all the Nations the US has helped over the years the Scandinavians are the only ones who voiced appreciation of our aid and ever returned us what fincial aid they had received from us in earlier years.

Israel has many times shown it takes our help for granted,
they thumb their nose at the requests we have asked them and continue to eat up Palestinian land by building more settlements, they lie to us, cover up and change their stories constantly and when they do get caught and the UN passes resolutions for Israel to abide by only to have the US use its power of veto to protect poor Israel from the mean Germans, oops I mean Arabs, oh wait a minute now that might be the Persians next because Israel is unhappy with them, they are tying to build nuclear bombs which the UN weapons inspectors say they are not producing weapons grade material, it was the same propaganda that was spun on the news before the war in Iraq that Iraq was buying yellow cake to produce neclear weapons and Joe Wilson of the CIA found out that was not true and that we the public found out too much later that it wasn't true and how many billions of dollars up in smoke, US soldier war dead and Iraqie war dead later?

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