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fire walker
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Post subject: Does bible scripture point to a pre Adamic human creation? Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:28 pm |
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The question in the topic of this thread sprang up out of the thread singular or plural.
In my personal POV all mankind are descendants of the Adamic creation when God made man in his immage on the 6th day of creation, and we may very well still be in the sixth day of creation because Christ is the beginning and the end, the author and finisher of our faith and that not a faith of our own.
A pre Adamic human race if I remember hearing accurately was one of Darwins thoughts on evolution and also may have origionated from old Jewish fables regarding the Gentiles which if the world could be made to believe these things would leave the Jewish supremacy position alive and well, there is no Jewish supremacy over the Gentiles, we are all one in Christ, equals, no superiour race over other races of people exsist other than in the minds of those that exalt themselves above others, or those who Idolize and exalt others to a position above everybody else, God is no respecter of persons.
There is nothing to fear in discussing these things to prove what is true, to cast out and discard by dispelling old myths and fables.
Peace
Fire Walker
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:36 pm |
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I totally agree with you Firewalker  That is why I am glad to be on this forum we can just sit and discuss our questions. No harm in discussing things. If we asked this question in the church building, it would not go this far 99 percent of the time.
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:24 am |
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Nowadays, I tend to take much in Genesis as allegory as IMO it cannot be taken as literal truth. Much of what is mentioned has truths that we can identify with but it defies logic to try and make a case for this as historical truth. I think many folk, if honest will ask themselves who was there to record in text what happened in the Garden of Eden.
This may be the biggest parable of all with a story of a fall from better times that just grew some tails as it was passed down from generation to generation. Even once it was scribed, the scribes were far and few between and thus they would control the content of the story and how it was passed onto the illiterate by the literate.
The bible says little about who the sons of Adam married and as such folk have taken extra biblical POV to talk it down. In a patriarchal society as the Hebrews were, the substance of the male was more relevant than those of the females and thus in the line of this mindset, the not so obvious was omitted.
Eve was mentioned as they knew that it takes a male and female to make offspring, the fall IMO was a way of explaining the wickedness of man and the goodness of God.
One cannot really take Genesis as literal even the flood as that negates so many questions relating to other ancient cultures that could not have come from the eight. If Mount Arrat was the resting place of the Ark, with all the technology we have today, there should be evidence and there is not. I believe there must have been a flood of sorts and possibly the Ark was real and would explain the re-population in terms of a limited worldview related to a region, it does not however cover the many myriads of species found only in certain regions, highly unlikely a polar bear would have survived in a Mediterranean climate as too penguins. Kangaroos are pretty region specific and even animals in the USA are region specific.
I posted the Noah's bunnies article I found as it had some real interesting statistics. When you do the math, it just does not add up and of course, history in ancient times is sketchy at best.
It would be interesting to know what would have happened to the Jesus story w/o the aspirations of the Roman empire to use it as a way of controlling the masses.
I doubt evolution as it is proposed as we are just too complex beings in the animal and plant and sea kingdoms to have evolved from some slime. It is always interesting to explore origins but we either accept blindly or be honest and say we really do not know. The Chinese do seem to have more dated records than that of the middle east and as many have said, why the Egyptians show no records in their hieroglyphs of the enslavement of the Hebrew people being emphatic record keepers.
Thus the challenge is if cultures supposedly to have interacted with the Hebrews dod not record their existence and the wiping out of a Pharaoh and his entire army, one has to say well OK possible but not literally true.
It is all fascinating.
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